Seems like Franklin Had Some Applicable Words For This Idiocy

The context is firearms.

“It isn’t up for debate” always seems to mean, My position is so weak that I can’t debate it;, so shut up and do what I say.

Christians should always be on the side of laying down our rights for the benefit of the vulnerable. This isn’t up for debate

Wanna bet?

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”

And since the excuse is Christianity, I see someone mentioned John 3:16.

For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.

But let’s go full-secular. How exactly would 100+ million people, who did not commit murder, giving up their right to defensive arms protect a single child from those who demonstrably do commit murder?

I think Ward really means Give up your rights, so I can lord it over you.


Your move, Ward.


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